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Weird World ficathon: is anyone interested in this?
[info]alara_r
So [info]andrastewhite has started up [info]multiverse5000 again for this year, and it got me thinking, as it does every year, only this year I am not pregnant or massively behind on work deadlines, about a companion ficathon dealing with 20th/21st century universes.

Multiverse, for those who don't know, is a ficathon dealing with crossing over space shows. Andraste picks out all the space shows that have a sufficiently large following, and people sign up with three crossover scenarios (such as Picard in the Blake's 7 universe, or slashing Laura Roslin and Zhaan from Farscape, or things like that), involving a character from one universe and either a character with romantic pairing, a character with ampersand pairing, or the entire universe, from a different fandom.

So I have been thinking that you know what goes together even better than space shows? "Modern" milieu shows (books, movies, comics, etc) about a world just like our own except that there is some freaky point of difference in it. Shows like Smallville, X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Movies like the various comic-based movies (X-Men, Spiderman). Books that have a large enough fandom that people would be willing to write in it (Harry Potter might qualify as weird world; things like Anita Blake and Dresden Files definitely qualify). Comics like X-Men do *not* qualify because their entire world is transformed by the presence of superheroes, mutants, aliens, etc. TV shows like The West Wing don't qualify because there is no supernatural or science-fictional point of difference. And shows like Xena don't qualify because they're not modern.

Would anyone be interested in such a ficathon? If so, are there fandoms you want to suggest? I am providing a list of potential fandoms under the LJ-cut; I will take suggestions and anything seconded by two people will appear in the master list, if the ficathon occurs at all. Fandoms with a question mark also need to be seconded; I'm sure of there being enough interest in the non-question marks that they can just go. I'm also not considering anime because there's too damn much of it and most of it would qualify, and I don't want to be swamped with it. I don't want the ficathon to run into Yuletide or Multiverse so I'm thinking it would probably do signups in June and fics due in September or October, and I'm not sure at this point that I would do anonymity because of the technology I want to use to put it up.



Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Angel
Smallville
Roswell?
X-Files
Supernatural
Heroes
Dresden Files, TV?
X-Men Movieverse
Spiderman Movieverse?
Any other Marvel movieverse?
Batman movieverse?
Anita Blake?
Harry Potter? (the question mark here is not are people willing to write it, but does it go too far in the direction of "weird" to qualify -- what do others think?)
Hellblazer
Alias? (is it weird enough?)
White Wolf's World of Darkness (only as a universe -- you can cross a character from a "weird" source into the WoD, but you cannot cross a character from it with another character or univese, due to the fact that as a role-playing universe WoD has no real established canon characters)

Other non-anime suggestions?

I think that Stargate SG-1 has enough points of departure from the regular modern world other than "ooh, we have a stone ring that takes us to other planets!" Particularly in the later seasons.

I think SG-1 doesn't qualify.

[info]alara_r

2007-04-22 09:46 pm (UTC)

It's a space show. The focus of the "Weird World" idea is *this* world... only weird. The Stargate universe seems to focus on *other* worlds and our reaction to them.

But I've only seen 2 eps, so I could be wrong.

What a terrific idea!

I think the comics movies entirely qualify - each of them have a theme of "regular people don't know about this" and discovery of strangeness. As for Harry Potter, it's easy to set an entire fic in the Wizarding World without ever mentioning the regular world, I think crossing any non-Potter character in (or any Potter character out) would take care of that.

What about Doctor Who? There's plenty set on alien planets, but the Ninth and Tenth doctors spend plenty of time in the present-day UK. Torchwood is set in present-day Cardiff, and is specifically about dealing with weirdness in a normal world.

Dr Who no, Torchwood sounds yes.

[info]alara_r

2007-04-26 04:31 pm (UTC)

Mmm, I wouldn't include Dr. Who, mainly because a. it's already in Multiverse b. very little of it takes place in *modern* times. A lot of it on Earth, sure, but unless you limit it to Nine and Ten, it seems like the vast majority of the Earth stories take place during other time periods.

However, if Torchwood is about dealing with the weird in modern society, then yes, it qualifies. So I'll add it as a suggestion.

Re: Dr Who no, Torchwood sounds yes.

[info]astrogirl2

2007-04-26 10:48 pm (UTC)

Yeah, despite trends in the current series, Doctor Who is supposed to be a space show. But Torchwood is exactly the sort of thing you're talking about: set in modern-day Cardiff and dealing with aliens, etc., which most people never know about (even though Torchwood itself is pretty much the least secretive Secret Organization ever :).

I'd love to do this! And I was going to suggest Torchwood, as well. Doctor Who too, if you don't find that too much of a space show.

I reckon I could probably do this; I'm most likely not doing Multiverse this year, due to not having watched much in the way of space shows recently, so it'd be awesome to have something to fill the gap.

Would 'giant robots from other planets live amongst us' be enough to qualify a fandom for one freaky point of difference, while still being non-spacey enough (if stories were limited to being set on Earth)? Because if so, I totally nominate Transformers. *g*

I would also like to suggest DC comics, or, if that's too far-reaching, then DC toonverse (Batman: The Animated Series, Justice League Unlimited, et cetera). Again, though, you run into the 'occasional story set in space' problem (at least with JLU), so I don't know if they'd qualify.

There are some comics I'd love to see, like Ex Machina, or Y: The Last Man, but they would really depend on whether you could find enough people willing to write them.

Too weird. The idea of the "weird world" is that the "ordinary people" of the world are largely unaware or untouched by the strangeness, which is why I haven't suggested "Alien Nation". Actual comicverses in DC and Marvel portray a world that is totally changed by the presence of superheroes. The people in DC, both toonverse and comicverse, are aware of the presence of aliens, of superhumans, of magic, and of people from other dimensions. But I would qualify the movieverses of DC and Marvel because they're a lot less over-the-top; superheroes aren't part of anyone's everyday life (in part because in each given movie the rest of the universe doesn't exist, so there's only *one* superhero or hero team per movie...)

Transformers, however... I can't remember, did the average citizen know a lot about the presence of the Transformers and the distinction between Autobots and Decepticons? Because if only a small number of people know about the Cybertronian civil war on Earth, then yes, it would qualify. :-)

I'd love to see Ex Machina, too. Y is too weird for this.

Re: DC doesn't qualify.

[info]apathocles

2007-04-26 06:19 pm (UTC)

DC doesn't qualify. Too weird.

Whoops -- that's what I get for reading the original post while in a hurry. *g*

I can't remember, did the average citizen know a lot about the presence of the Transformers and the distinction between Autobots and Decepticons?

I think it depends on the continuity and/or what the writers felt like from week to week. In the original cartoon, you had Autobots doing stuff like winning major science prizes in front of the world's media... but you also had people occasionally WTFing about the presence of giant robots. For the most part, though, I'd guess that the majority of people are probably aware of their existence. Maybe. I'm really not sure. *g*

I'd say that enough people are aware to most likely rule it out for eligibility, anyway. Damn. Oh, well. If only they were better at that whole 'in disguise' thing.

There are some continuities in which they manage to keep a low profile (apart from when they randomly decide to do stuff like fly around in car mode in order to get around a traffic jam *eyeroll*), but it's not classic continuity, so I doubt you'd get too many volunteers to write it.

I'd love to see Ex Machina, too.

Woot!

There are other comics fandoms I'd love to see, like Fell, but they'd be even more difficult to scrape together volunteers for. Pity.

Here via [info]astrogirl2 and squeeing with delight :-)

My suggestion: Pirates of the Caribbean, which is basically a historical 'Age of Sail' fandom set in some alternate universe with lots of supernatural elements such as curses, undead pirates, voodoo magic and giant sea monsters.

Rather ideal for crossovers with history-heavy fantasy shows such as Highlander or Buffy, methinks ;-)

Ouch. Just saw that you were speaking about modern shows. So please feel free to ignore the comment above.

I guess my enthusiasm must have interfered with my reading skills *g*

If anyone ever does a "historical weird world" kind of thing, then things like PoTC, Temeraire, Xena, Hercules, The Prestige, and the extremely short-lived Wild West with Weird Science show Legend would all qualify, although a lot of them would need time travel to get to each other. :-)

But yeah, for now they're not considered.

Sounds nifty! I think Dresden Files definitely qualifies. Harry Potter also, because the wizarding world is ostensibly within our world, only hidden. Other shows that would work are Special Unit 2 and Painkiller Jane, although I don't know if they have any fandom to speak of. Umm... I don't know much about Forever Knight or Beauty and the Beast, but from the little I do know they might work.

Yeah, I forgot FK and BatB.

[info]alara_r

2007-04-26 04:28 pm (UTC)

You're right, they do qualify, if it turns out there's enough interest in them to include them. They're older, more zine-dominated fandoms, so we might have trouble getting enough people.

Does Painkiller Jane *have* a fandom yet? It just came out two weeks ago.

SU2 would be great if enough people could be found who wanted to write it. :-)

Re: Yeah, I forgot FK and BatB.

[info]astrogirl2

2007-04-26 10:50 pm (UTC)

Speaking of older fandoms, what about Quantum Leap? Does bouncing around in time between 1953 and 1999 or so count as "contemporary?"

Re: Yeah, I forgot FK and BatB.

[info]alara_r

2007-05-02 02:25 am (UTC)

Yes, that does count.

I probably won't play, but this is a great ficathon idea.

What about The Sentinel? Is the existence of one (possibly more) human with superhuman senses not weird *enough*?

Oh, and I think Alias should qualify.

What about Early Edition?

What's Early Edition?

[info]alara_r

2007-05-02 02:30 am (UTC)

I didn't know enough about Sentinel to know if it qualified; does it feature a lot of weirdness? I mean, does Jim the guy with enhanced senses solve crimes where it could have been a police procedural, or is it kind of bizarro stuff? I can't tell from the fanfic.

Tell me about Alias. What's the weird in it? I've seen like three episodes and they were no more weird than James Bond.

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